Just Got My Belt Replaces Sqreeching Again

gdem69 · 24 0 Sep 23, 2008 Laval, Quebec_Canada

Its been a practiced twelvemonth (ever since i had to supplant my engine) that my alternator/ac/powersteering chugalug made that anoying racket that all 2g dsm owners are very familiar with. Its happens when its cold exterior and y'all offset the car, it happens when you plow your lights on at dark, when you employ your vents in the car and when you practice tight turns while parking.

The two big issues are the tensioner for the atlernator and the commodities that holds the tensioner in identify. I sent my car to two garages and both told me that my pullys have to be aligned and that i would maybe accept to change most of my pullys (typical for mechanics to brand a unproblematic fix a large issue)

How To Ready Your Belt (Atleast How I Fixed Mine)
Showtime bank check if the belt is worn out. in most cases considering the chugalug has been squeaking for so long, chances are that you will demand to supercede it. To replace it, you will need to jack upward your car and loosen the commodities underneeth the altonator which is holding information technology in place. so play around with the tensioner on your alternator making sure that your are loosening it and not tightening. with a lot of patients and a bit of time considering its so tight and awakward, you volition be able to skid that old worn out belt and replace it with a bran new one.

And then check the bolt that goes from left to right through the tensioner. One of my issues was that this specific bolt would get loose very ofttimes then i purchased a new nut with a nylon linning in it then it would forbid information technology from getting loose again. Information technology worked out beautifully.

Then compare the tension of your chugalug to the belt which is to the left of your alternator. Obviousily to adjust the tension for your belt loosen the nut and bolt that concur the tensioner in place (the one described higher up that goes from left to correct) and then tighten your tensioner appropriately. I think that this is the problem with most of these mitsubishi'south the altinator tensioner.

Finally im going to let many in on a picayune surreptitious that my friend told me. There is no chance in this but just the same do it at your own risk because i dont want to exist responcible for anyones actions. Take a wax candle and rub it on the inside of your chugalug gently so that you dont ruin any of the groovs. Your soposeto do this while the car is on (while the chugalug is in motion) but because information technology is then tight i would never suggest for anyone to do this, it is really as well dangerous. as well jack up the car on the drivers side if you lot accept a gst or gsx, yous will find the same belt underneeth (the one closest to the drivers side tire) and keep to rub your wax candle on it to embrace every bit much surface equally possible. Dont exagerate with the candle because yous dont need to put that much just pass it through your belt four or 5 times max.

One time everything is checked and done properly it is well-nigh guaranteed that your car volition never sqeak once more and trust me it is a hudge relief because it was driving me crazzy as it has been to many. I put it through a exam last night driving on a pretty cold night with my lights and vents on while parallel parking and to my supprise i didnt hear a unmarried noise from that chugalug. What a relief!!! i wish all thoes who attemt to finally fix their belts all the luck possible. Hopefully my tips volition lead you lot to success.

99gst_racer · 11,862 1,135 April 5, 2003 Coloma, Michigan

I want to endeavor this candle flim-flam sometime this calendar week to meet if information technology works on my roomate's 2G. If it fixes it, I'm going to give to a large due east-hug!

Captainredeyez · 380 1 Feb 22, 2008 Metairie, Louisiana

Excellent write-up. I'm going to exist changing my belts out adjacent weekend and ima try this. If it works, I'll put you up for some REP points.

interex · one,041 one April 28, 2008 Centralia, Illinois

Nearly 5 years ago I had a 89 Beretta GT, 2.8L, 5spd and that auto seriously hauled some assurance. I started having a problem with the belt squealing no matter what I did. I even replaced the tensioner thinking it was wore out only it would always eventually outset doing it once again. I was at a family reunion and talking about the problem when my uncle suggested to take a bar of Pigeon soap and hold it on the serpentine side and let the belt rub against information technology to coat the belt. Well this eventually quieted the belt and it didn't squeal later that. Unfortunately striking water puddles would splash some h2o upwards on the crank pulley and the chugalug would get wet and you could tell information technology wasn't getting a grip under acceleration and would be a trouble until it dried once again.

Just good fix.

gdem69 · 24 0 Sep 23, 2008 Laval, Quebec_Canada

Cheers, I appreciate the nice replies. If you demand any help along the way feel free to write back. I just came dorsum from driving my car about twenty mins ago and it'southward really such a relief starting upward my eclipse with no problems!

interex · 1,041 1 April 28, 2008 Centralia, Illinois

I just looked and Autozone has a spray that coats the belt and stops the squealing. It's called Belt Dressing.

gdem69 · 24 0 Sep 23, 2008 Laval, Quebec_Canada

yeah but thats the thing a bar of lather washes off and dissolves with water, wax doesnt. I've heard of and then many techniques and tricks and ive tried all on my car. This is the first time that something really worked for a while now. usually after two or three spins effectually the block no matter what i tried, information technology gives out.

99gst_racer · 11,862 i,135 Apr 5, 2003 Coloma, Michigan

I only looked and Autozone has a spray that coats the belt and stops the squealing. Information technology'southward called Belt Dressing.

That stuff is hit-or-miss. It worked for my buddy's Honda, but it doesn't do a thing for my 2G or my roomate's 2G.

gdem69 · 24 0 Sep 23, 2008 Laval, Quebec_Canada

Belt dressing is no good. I've been using information technology for the past 3 months just to make the car stop squeeling when i back out of my driveway. literally minuites later it begins to fade abroad and it slowly eats up the rubber of your belt (very like to using WD-40) only about importantlty bank check your tensioner on your alternator and the tension of your chugalug compared to the i to the right of it.

interex · i,041 1 Apr 28, 2008 Centralia, Illinois

It never washed off, it didn't get-go squealing again while I had the car. It would just lose grip when information technology got wet but it did work as long as information technology was dry. Become out and spray some water on your belt while information technology's running with the wax on information technology and see if it does it too, also if y'all happen to become oil, or antifreeze on there it volition bead up on the chugalug and you volition have near the same issue I was talking almost with the soap/water. You'll take to use something similar degreaser to make clean it off or information technology will always slip under hard dispatch.

gdem69 · 24 0 Sep 23, 2008 Laval, Quebec_Canada

Im telling you guys its a trouble with all the 2g eclipse'due south and talon'due south. The alternator tensioner moves by itself over fourth dimension and screws information technology all upwards. y'all need to change that nut and bolt that holds the tensioner in place and fallow upwards on my guide.

gdem69 · 24 0 Sep 23, 2008 Laval, Quebec_Canada

And as far as the belt slipping, i didnt realize annihilation upwards untill at present. I find that the alternator is more stable when the car is stopped. usually at night i useto find that the lights inside my motorcar would dim when i would be stoped at a red light. terminal night i it was the way information technology was soposeto be.

interex · 1,041 1 Apr 28, 2008 Centralia, Illinois

I got stranded one time in the ville without my cell phone. It kind of suck being a white kid walking through the ville to a gas station to make a call. Not to be racist but yea... it'south non fun in gang banger land.

romeen · 2,532 36 Jul 12, 2006 Vancouver, Washington

When y'all tighten the cross commodities on the tensioner bracket it tends to pull the head of the tensioner bolt up and about off of the end of the tensioner arm. I ever push down hard on the head of the tensioner bolt while tightening the cross bolt to preclude that. I have never had a problem with my alternator belt loosening upwards or squealing.

I do like the candle wax thought though. The bar of lather flim-flam has been around for a long time but I can see how information technology would cause problems if it gets wet. And I agree with the others, the belt dressing does not work well.

MidShipCivic · 718 8 Apr 22, 2005 Orlando, Florida

I don't similar these band assist fixes it shouldn't accept to be like this I believe there is more to it.

99gst_racer · 11,862 1,135 Apr 5, 2003 Coloma, Michigan

I don't like these band aid fixes it shouldn't have to exist similar this I believe at that place is more than to it.

We're open to proffer, if yous have a meliorate idea.

Many of us accept tried it all (multiple dampeners, belts, alternators, tensions, etc...).

I'thousand non a fan of bandaid fixes, but if a scrap of candle wax ceases that god-awful noise, and so I'k grateful. :thumb:

Defiant

Yous'll usually discover that almost anything lightly applied to an accessory chugalug will tranquility it downwards. A good, easy, cheap way to detect out if it's a belt making noise is to simply let some h2o drip onto its friction surface. It's too harmless if it turns out that'due south not the source of the sound. There'south a stick lubricant called "Door-Ease" which I've e'er used on belts that take needed it.

Exist especially careful when messing with a running DSM's accompaniment side- at that place'south not only the universal danger in only being around drive belts -which volition seize with teeth off a finger long before you feel it- but there's the boosted threat that if information technology grabs y'all, the lack of clearance will wind up with inescapable mangling. No long sleeves, no jewelry, no watch.

GsxEcutioner · 1,579 3 Sep 3, 2007 San Bruno, California

hmm My friend gave me a Stick of Wax similar that, thats meant for the belt and 1000 other things, He got information technology while working at Ford. It works, and yep I put information technology on while the belts in motion.
-Shane

gdem69 · 24 0 Sep 23, 2008 Laval, Quebec_Canada

Not for nothing merely we had a lot of rain this weekend and my belt didnt screech once. thankgod i fixed this problem because i drove most of the time with my lights and defrosters (front and rear) on and for all those who have experienced this trouble before y'all know how crazzy it tin get in the rain with that belt. I am and then glad that my problems fixed. I am as well not a fan of quick fixes but in this case no matter what yous must utilise this strategy.

96eclipseawd · 120 1 Sep 26, 2008 lake butler, Florida

belt dressing works when you first spray it on so ya dorsum out and its whining over again. i deal with the noise every morning. ill have two requite the candle idea a attempt, nothing else has worked yet.

talon_swift7834

+i for the candle idea...i'm going to endeavor that this weekend....it's almost embarrassing starting your car when anyone is around because you know information technology's going to squeal.

MidShipCivic · 718 eight Apr 22, 2005 Orlando, Florida

We're open to proffer, if you accept a amend idea.
I'm not a fan of bandaid fixes, but if a bit of candle wax ceases that god-awful noise, then I'thou grateful.

I know a trivial near power transimission belts ( the term for these belts) serpentines like a lot of tension.

Mind you my pulleys have 178k on them non a squeak out of the belts ( I simply changed them btw non oem poly from advance motorcar).

Well for one there shouldn't be ANY grease dirt, rust or oil in serpentine grooves, utilise a

nord lock washer on the the tension lock cross commodities now... stick a screw driver in between the PS and alt the pry dorsum equally difficult and you lot tin can and lock that tension. Then plough the tension commodities to that point where it keeps that specific tension.

I really practise mean clean those grooves weather condition information technology be degreaser/carb cleaner and so steel brush/air fitting to blow debris clean off.

Information technology SHOULD NOT squeak over again and for added adhesion I do it on a new belt I buy stop squeak and let information technology soak on the grooves and install (one time once more make certain pulley grooves are CLEAN), because what cease squeak volition do is for one it's increase its adhesion and it volition coat the pulleys to keep mess from causing it to slip but it needs to exist clean prior for it to do that.

Nord lock washers ( www.mcmastercarr.com )

The ps belt for 1g are a V belt they need little tension and they are very efficient I never have a problem with it.

99gst_racer · xi,862 1,135 April 5, 2003 Coloma, Michigan

Well, my well-nigh recent venture:

Brand new, out of the box Fluidampnr, brand new alternator, and brand new Mitsu belt. I even removed the pulleys from the water pump, and I thoroughly cleaned both of them with carb cleaner. It still squealed. I added tension, and it made no difference. I inverse the belt to a Gatorback, and it got amend, but the problem is nonetheless present.

I haven't tried this candle trick nevertheless, because I haven't driven my car since earlier this thread was made. Simply I have every intention to try it the next time I go my car out of the garage.

PS - As well much tension will wear out the bearings in the alternator. As yous increase tension, the alternator will present itself every bit a weak link long earlier the belt will.

MidShipCivic · 718 8 Apr 22, 2005 Orlando, Florida

Practise you stick something in there and pry it back ? Yep its clean just you lot practice need tension that's what drives it, if you have slipping and your pulleys and belts are okay and so you don't have enough tension it's only that simple I wouldn't put candle wax on pulleys. You're defeating the purpose.

My tension has been tight for a long fourth dimension and I don't accept a worn out alternator, I push my finger on the belt and if I can push the chugalug downwards to brand it bend and then information technology's enough if I can't that'southward too much.

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